Episode 7. SAP Gnanissara
“Public Health and Faculty influence.”
Speedy: Good morning Gnaniss.
I was delighted when you accepted my invitation to be my 7th guest.
Thanks a lot. We thought of touching on some aspects of Community Medicine in
Sri Lanka" or "Public Health in Sri Lanka", and on some of your
own recollections of our medical student days. Let us do it while enjoying a
cup of tea!
Gnaniss:Thanks for inviting me
Speedy. I do read our blog but
unfortunately not very frequently.
Speedy: Not a problem. We
are all so busy with so many things to occupy our time. I am pleased that you
do visit the blog from time to time.
Gnaniss: I do enjoy reading
your comments and your various interesting contributions to the blog. Thank you
for that.
Speedy: My pleasure. I am now
transporting myself and you back in time and believe it or not, we are in the
Physiology lecture theatre. You are seated on my left side, or is it the right
side?
Gnaniss: I am not absolutely
sure but I think I was on your right side. The other “G”s close to us were
Ganesh, Kamini G, Padmini G, Desmond G.
Speedy: I can see Punsiri,
Ganesh, you, me, Padmini, Gompa, Kamini, Priya and Devayani. Of course we sat
in alphabetical order. I am looking down at the front row and I can see Rohini
A, Sunil A, Sura A and Anton Ambrose. And now, the featureless babble dies down
and they all become a bit quiet and who is that pale person with Bryl-creamed
hair combed back, wearing a white suit and black rimmed spectacles? Prof Koch
of course!
Gnaniss: Indeed it is! I don’t
know why, but I can now see a different person, white hair big tummy and grey
suit, also spectacled.
Speedy: That is Patchaya! Tins
and cans, pots and pans! He was our first introduction to Public Health.
Gnaniss: That’s right. He was
quite a character but as a teacher? What do you think Speedy?
Speedy: Put it this way Gnaniss,
he never enthused me to even remotely think of pursuing a career in Public
Health. What is your view?
Gnaniss: Firstly, without
sounding too disrespectful, almost all Public Health lectures especially those
by 'Patchaya', I thought were a bit of a 'joke'! The Public Health field book was a disaster
with all 'copied' stuff. We used to 'cut' some of the field trips. I know that
in the present-day context, Community Medicine is serious stuff.
Speedy: Community medicine is
certainly appreciated much more now. What about you? I know that you chose that
field and, if I may so, you distinguished yourself in that field. Can you tell
us why you chose this field.
Gnaniss: Thank you for your
kind words. During my first appointment in Public Health, I realised
that it was more interesting and satisfying to work with people and communities
rather than being restricted to treating individual patients. I saw very well
how individuals and families lived in different situations with their many
problems and how they resolved those problems. Unlike seeing an individual
patient may be once in the lifetime, I used to meet people in the community
more often and establish a friendly dialogue with them. They highly appreciated
my commitment to Public Health. The diverse nature of Public Health gave me
more work satisfaction. Since I believe in close family relations, I realised
that Public Health provided me more and better opportunities to be with them.
Speedy: Thank you. It is
always fascinating to understand how people choose their career paths. Now, if
you don’t mind, please take us through your career path briefly.
Gnaniss: I shall refer to my
key postings in the State sector. District Medical Officer,
District Hospital, Tissamaharama.MO/OPD, Colombo South Hospital, Medical Officer
of Health (MOH), Weligama, Asst. Port Health Officer, Seaport Colombo,MOH,
Polonnaruwa, Chief Medical Officer of Health, Kalutara, Dep. Director (Field
Services), National Institute of Health Sciences (NIHS), Kalutara, Director,
NIHS, Kalutara, Dep. Director General of Health Services, Ministry of Health
These are indicated in a chronological order but
cannot remember the period of service at each place.
Speedy: I can see how you made
your mark. Well done! As for Public Health as a subject in our time, it was one
of those things in our training. There were subjects we did only because we had
to in order to progress towards the Final MBBS. For most of us, Public Health
belonged to that category. Looking back, I now realise how important Public
Health is and I wish we had teachers who could have enthused us.
Gnaniss:Agree with you Speedy.
Mind you, I never quite understood why we had to learn all that detailed
Anatomy either!
Speedy: Very true. You know of
course that the teaching of Anatomy has changed radically and is much more
oriented towards the needs of a basic doctor. Does this also apply in Sri
Lanka?
Speedy: That
is good. Going back to
our time as medical students, you and I got to know each other quite well and
we were together as body partners for Anatomy and for ward classes as well. We
always had a good laugh and used to tease Kamini Gunawardena, you remember her?
Gnaniss: Yes,
Kamini was a very innocent girl and was completely puzzled by “kunu jokes”! We
were all very fond of her but did pull her leg quite a bit! I gather she is in Australia.
Speedy: Yes she is in
Australia. I once had a telephone
conversation with her just before our 50th anniversary get together
and I tried to persuade her to attend. Unfortunately, she was not able to come.
As for you and I, we lost contact inevitably after I left Sri Lanka but had the
good fortune to meet you many times at Reunions and of course at Pram’s
“poolside parties”.
Gnaniss: Yes Speedy, it is very
difficult to maintain contact. Our batch mates were fairly close to each other
and knew each other quite well. Of course, there were a few of us who were
very much together and studied together. Unfortunately, some of them have left
this world.
I feel that one of the main
reasons for this closeness was the homogeneity of the batch. Unlike the present
day medical students who come from diverse family backgrounds, we were from
somewhat similar social backgrounds. I am fully aware that the present day
students have many issues and worries to consider while undergoing training. We
were fortunate to have had the freedom to concentrate mainly on our studies
because we were generally well looked after by our parents and families without
having other problems to worry about. Our main concern was learning well. In
comparison to present day undergraduates, there was no competition to 'out
do' one another other than to succeed in our own studies. Our perceptions,
attitudes and expectations were generally common. These are purely my personal
views and I don’t know whether you agree with me Speedy.
Speedy: I do to a large extent
Gnaniss. That was very thoughtful and illuminating. These factors
certainly applied to me and like you said, I had no worries caused by such
extraneous factors and had all the encouragement and support of my parents to
whom I am eternally grateful. There was a bit of a “class” divide in that some,
fortunately only a minority, from Colombo schools who had this superiority
complex which had absolutely no place in my thinking.
Gnaniss: May be you are right
somewhat, but I feel that it didn’t affect our relationships.
Speedy: Very true, especially
after we got to know each other. We had a common aim.
Gnaniss, we are both retired now but
you told me you are still fairly busy.
Gnaniss: That is absolutely
true.You must believe me when I say that I am busy even after so many years of
retirement from active service. I still work for a pharmaceutical company though
not on a permanent basis and I am also involved in many activities in the two Colleges
of Medical Administrators and Community Physicians. I am also a member of the
Medical Committee of the Sri Lanka Family Planning Association and the Vice
President of the Independent Medical Practitioners Association. These
involvements keep me rather active which I think is quite good
Speedy: That is a lot! You
must enjoy what you do for otherwise you wouldn’t be doing it.
Gnaniss: Absolutely! I enjoy it
and consider myself lucky to have this opportunity.
Speedy: I think it would be
fun to recall any amusing incidents while you were a medical student. Anything
comes to mind Gnaniss? Involving our batch mates or our teachers?
Gnaniss: Speedy, I just want to
share a few recollections of the seniors' rags we were subjected to. I can
remember I had great difficulty in getting into my father's car after rolling
over in sand with soaking wet clothes during the initial rag. The rag we had
after the Law-Medical is also one to remember. It took place in the ground
floor lobby of the Pathology Block. After a severe 'workout' we had to find
our correct pair of shoes from a well-mixed up heap of all students' shoes. It was
a difficult task and some went away without their shoes. Since I had to bus
home that day I was keen to find my pair. I waited for things to settle down and
thinking that the seniors had left, I went back to fetch my pair.I was taken by
surprise when two seniors jumped at me, applied grease on my hair and cut off a
considerable portion of my hair. Fortunately, I was able to find my pair of
shoes. The first thing I did was to buy a 'cap' from a Borella shop and after
going home got a full shave of my scalp hair. Fortunately, it was the beginning
of the long vacation. Even with all those harsh experiences we still tolerated
those 'rags'.I am sure you went through them, yourself.
Speedy: The rag is a sore
topic with me! I absolutely hated it and was indignant and angry that such things
were allowed to happen and that the authorities turned a blind eye towards this
illegal and inhuman harassment. There is absolutely no justification for rags.
Gnaniss: I agree with you but in many of the Faculties other
than the Medical, things are much worse now. Several of the undergraduates have
left university unable to go through this tragic experience.
Speedy: That is so sad to
hear. I know that some resorted to suicide. It is just beyond belief that these
things still happen. Coming back to us, I remember you very well as you were seated
next to me.
Gnaniss:.Speedy,
I can still remember
you as an excellent caricature artist, sketching figures of our teachers and
friends. I use to enjoy seeing them.
Some
of us had lunch and tea at the Faculty canteen. We had great chats
(mainly gossip) during that time. The common room was another meeting place. I
can remember playing carrom and also participating at the carrom tournament.
Lucky was another keen carrom player.
Speedy: It is amazing that you
remember my caricature drawing after all these years! I still enjoy doing them.
I wish I kept some of those you referred to. Too late now!
When
it came to studying, did you mostly study on your own or did you indulge in
group work?
Gnaniss: A few of us did
combined studies in a room of one of our batch mates residing in the
newly
built multi-storied Faculty hostel down Norris Canal Road. Sad to realise that
some of them are no more. In the midst of serious studies we also had time to loiter,
gossip and joke.
Speedy: Well Gnaniss, that
was a lovely walk through memory lane and we could go on for longer but for the
time being, let us finish that tea before it gets too cold and rejoice in our
reminiscences. Thanks again for being my 7th Subject
Gnaniss: Speedy, it was an
absolute pleasure to have a chat and recall our happy times. The tea was
excellent by the way! When you next come to Sri Lanka, you must contact me.
Speedy: Of course I will, and
that is a promise.
ReplyDeleteNow that’s what I call a real treat to read, i.e. the dialogue between Speedy and Gnaniss who sat next to him in lectures. What an interesting conversation you two have! And I am learning for the first time, this wonderful history about Gnaniss and the unique career path he followed and what a great insight he had in making this choice.
I am so enlightened about many things after reading this. And Ganiss, I know it is more than 52 years since we left that college but I am very impressed by all that happened to you during that course and during your career path. It is an example to other students who I hope will get a chance to read this and that they will think of specialities other than medicine, surgery, paediatrics etc which we automatically weir towards. It is entertaining to read snippets of happenings during the course and the mentioning a few mates who are sadly no more with us, brings tears to my eyes. They too were like me, you and Speedy, worked hard with us, had the career ladder to climb afterwards and at the height of their success, they are no more. Life is such a mystery isn’t it?
Well, I must conclude by thanking you for taking us through such an interesting journey with the help of Speedy of course and I would like to salute you Gnaniss for all you have done and I am truly proud to have been your batch mate. Sincerely, Zita
Thanks for your comment Zita. Gnaniss is the quiet unassuming type who is not prone to boasting about himself and is a genuinely nice chap. His observations on the teaching of Public Health will resonate with quite a few of our colleagues I am sure. We did not touch on the other famous character, the veritable Earle DeFonseka, the Doctor and Musician, another "character". There is a wonderful article about him if you care to read it. Here is the reference:https://defonseka.com/front-page/the-articles/articles/the-forgotten-car/
ReplyDeleteDo you remember his sports car? ATurner 803 sports car with the new BMC 948 cc engine from the Austin A35, had been purchased brand new by Prof. Earle De Fonseka. This would have been in late 1955 or early 1956. The article says "How and why Prof. Earle decided on this little known marque remains a mystery. Probably the advertising material displayed below may give some clues.
It is very interesting to read about Gnaniss's experience in the field of Public Health,in Sri Lanka.I had a taste of Public health for about two and half years as an MOH.It was Hambantota and was one of the larger and difficult area to cover.The two Specialities,I hated were Forensic and Public Health work at that era.Hard work with no rewards.
ReplyDeletePreventive medicine has come to the forefront with the epidemic of type 2 diabetes and obesity.Looking at the pictures in SriLankan channels,I have gathered that gross obesity is rampant among both sexes and the Consultants are minting money,treating patients with no preventive actions.Coming back to lectures on Public Health,Dr Earle Fonseka made a mark.Her was fully dressed on attending for lectures and I presume that he remained a bachelor,all his life. I,too utterly condemn the barbaric rag,which authorities have failed so far,to eradicate from Universities,for good.May,I point out that you both have forgotten the name Gunasekera,who passed away in his early life.
Hi,Speedy,
ReplyDeleteThere were 2 Gunasekeras in our batch,a male and female.as far as I can recollect male was M D Gunasekera.What about your recollection?
Hi Sumathi The other Gunasekera was Devayani. Long single plat, tall and quiet.
DeleteTo set the record straight, there were two Gunasekaras. Devayani who was with us throughout and "NCDM" who joined us from Peradeniya.
DeleteFrom our Batch Directory:
51 Gunasekara, I.D. Salgado (Devayani) 23, 2nd Lane, Ratmalana
devayanisalgado@hotmail.com
anildevi@hotmail.com
2625310 Anil
52 Gunasekara, N.C.D.M.* Deceased
Mahen and Gnanissara
ReplyDeleteThank you for that chat over at Starbucks. I have enjoyed the series immensely and it is a wonderful opportunity to get to know what our mates have been upto since the Faculty days. I too remember Gnaniss as a quiet unassuming guy but never a pushover and stood his ground. It is wonderful to know that Gnaniss had reached the top in his field occupying his place in the hallowed precincts of the Department of Health in the Fort. Before his meteoric rise he had served the community in various parts of the country which he must look back with great pride.
As a student I too was rather dismissive of Public Health remembering only the latrines and Malaria. I don't blame our teachers for this. This was the world we lived in the mid 20th century. Earle de Fonseka and Prof Abhayaratne did their best to instil the basics of Public Health into us when many of us were struggling with the enormous amount of study we had to do for medicine, surgery and Obs and Gynae. I give them credit for their understanding of our plight..
I haven't met Gnaniss since 1967 and wish we get an opportunity to meet again. This dialogue has brought us closer once again, thanks to Mahen. This is a wonderful series and long may it continue.
Quite agree that we must always remember the context when we pass judgement on teaching. Healthcare is a dynamic area and like many things in life has to adapt and change to the needs that prevail at the time in question. But I do have impressions of how good a teacher was and some standout as very special and others not so much although I am sure they all did their best..
DeleteAs we reflect on our lives 50+ years ago the remarks on the class divide and the superiority complex is interesting and amusing . That was the unacceptable face of class and wealth which we had inherited from the British. Those issues were palpably present in the batch but always below the surface hence never a problem. We have aired these issues in the past with plenty of humour and without resentment. As I write I see the smiling faces of the upper classes and their youthful arrogance that existed all those years ago. Quite honestly it never harmed anyone and perhaps they felt better for it. Many years later When I really got to know some of them I found them no different from anyone else, pleasant kind and generous. All a part of the rich tapestry of life.
ReplyDeleteI can remember Devayani,as described by Speedy as long,single,flat,tall and quiet.I also agree with ND about the class system that existed during our time in the Medical school.Class and caste system is embedded in Sri Lankan society,which may not disappear for many years.LSSP advocated classless society(Sama Samaja)Unfortunately,they were overrun by the SLFP and there isn't a single MP from that Party at the moment.
ReplyDeleteWe are talking about what happened 50 years ago and of course attitudes and impressions,not to mention behaviour, have changed as they do. There is no harm in recollections without judgement - All part of Life's rich tapestry!
ReplyDeleteI would be interested on colleagues views on subjects we were taught which had little relevance for us.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Nihal, you Mahendra and all others who have commented on the subjects which were seemingly irrelevant to what we were being primed to do, during our training years. I too, initially, looked back and lamented at this 'waste of time and energy'. But having gone through decades of active work I can say now, that whatever we were taught came in handy at some time or other. Even more, we had a rounded education and instruction, to prepare us for whatever line we finally settled in. And even when one does surgery one has to sometimes use the knowledge of public health, venereal diseases, or statistics as we view the patient as a whole and the training we had helped us to place him in society, give him that added snippet of advice when we discharged him from the ward or clinic. The patient goes with feeling of satisfaction that the doctor had a deep knowledge and he respects and accepts the advice he's been given. Now I feel it was the right thing to do, the training we had, I mean. But of course it is also correct that since then they have trimmed down some parts and added new areas which have now become important. Zita
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